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msm
8/22/2004
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Could it be a modern "Drive In Theater?" Very large screen. :)
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Ray in NV
8/22/2004
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Only one L in Walmart. Dang nitpickers.......Editor's note: Ray, does anyone really care?
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Melanie Parke
8/22/2004
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Leelanau 2016 olympic games diving platform?Editor's note: Ahh... the eye of an artist.
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Judy from Norton Shores
8/22/2004
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Hey! I care about spelling. I'm an English teacher.
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Marv Anderson-
8/22/2004
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Sure enough, a 87 X 97 ft plasma screen for a sail in theater of the deep. Popcorn on first floor
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gaboo
8/22/2004
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Keith, it's avant gard. Spelling matters.Editor's note: Ahh, your grandfather's pajamas gabbo. Besides, it's spelled "avant-garde", so bla on you.
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Tom in SB
8/22/2004
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My guess is they need that much steel to support the 5000 pounds of glass in a window that large. I hope they're really careful when they use the crane to lift it into place.
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Larry in Ligonier
8/22/2004
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There goes the neighborhood....kind of reminds me of the house built at the top of the falls at Telluride. They just want you to know they're there and they have more money than you do!
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bblaida
8/22/2004
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The new SugarLoaf warming room? It's not the new jail, it's too high. It good be the "higher" court now that the court house is moving. Enough, how was the view?
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Pat G.
8/22/2004
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Whatever it is (and I tend to side with Larry from Ligonier), I just figure anyone goofy enough to build off the edge of a rise like that deserves whatever they'll get when Mom Nature gets through with 'em...How sad. Mr. B., I hope you'll keep an eye on it, and let us know when it finally becomes (even more) obvious.
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Oldgoat
8/22/2004
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Kinda reminds me of those old Civil War photos of Richmond, Virginia, after the yankees were through with it, (in plywood).-Og
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The Mar
8/22/2004
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Is that being built on the little lake or the big lake? If it's on the big lake, maybe the beams are going to support the big bay window when the gales of November blow through. May not matter if the whole bluff and house included falls into the lake at high water...
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m'waves
8/22/2004
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Reminds me of the small hotel where you had to put the bed back up into the wall to use the bathroom. The width of this wonderful dwelling can't be more the 20'.For those interested, it is a mile or so north of the Happy Hour, overlooking the big lake.
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Tom B.
8/22/2004
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I believe this is the new observation post (& country club) of the "Save our Shoreline" people from which they will identify and report unauthorized beach combers walking in dry sand for which they do not hold title.
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sally/walwie
8/22/2004
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This house is about 40' off of M-22. With orchards surrounding it. A few little words of advice....send a contribution to the Leelanau County Farmland Preservation Board, P.O. Box 324, Lake Leelanau, Mi. 49653 - or - go to
www.leelanaucounty.com/farmlandpres8355.asp
Please. For the sake of Leelanau County's future.
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Susan in N'Port
8/22/2004
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All I know is that I'd hate to be in that oh-so-public place with everyone who passes on M-22 wondering, What the hell?
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Cara Lee in Kazoo
8/22/2004
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Tom B.'s comment brings up a question I've heard conflicting answers to through the years. I just bought a "gently used" 60 year old house in the Village of Northport. I recently took a guest to Christmas Cove hoping we could walk the shoreline. The "No Trespassing" signs are intimidating when unsure of the law. I was once told that the "trespasser" has to walk 3 feet out in the water. That could be wet and painful! What is the law? I'd like to know I'm on solid ground if I'm ever challenged by a property owner.
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Keith
8/23/2004
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This appears to be the framework for a huge computer that will be used by the County to figure out how they are going to build a 70000 square foot courthouse for only 7 million. Minus 15% architect fees, this leaves 5.95 million to use for construction or $85.00 per square foot.
The courthose folly will be interesting to monitor.
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Kent in FL
8/23/2004
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Interesting design. Can't wait to see it completed.
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Mary-Lou in Detroit
8/23/2004
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That building looks like an over sized Outhouse with skylights to me. Those two doors are for 'His' and Her'.
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Fly on the Wall
8/23/2004
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From what I hear, this is a totally new development concept that places new home construction within an existing orchard. The homeowners become part of a co-operative, which harvests the crop and sells at this roadside stand. The homeowners benefit both in local tax savings and the ability to write off the homes on their income tax as well as whatever profits they make from the sale of the crop.
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tim in north carolina
8/23/2004
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sad statement but this is mostlikely someone's weekend home....... kind of reminds me of those 50' plus power boats that are all long nose... we call em compensators if you get my drift !
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Harry P
8/23/2004
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Once upon a time, good architects would use their skills to build cottages on bluffs and use the surrounding trees and landscape to hide the structure while allowing a view for the inhabitants. I can personally attest that some of these good architects still exist, but I'm afraid the "Me" society that has evolved over the last 25 years requires that "Me" is more important than "Us", resulting in architectural abortions such as the example above. Technically, a very good picture Keith… of a lousy scene.
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Sylvia Cordes
8/23/2004
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Her dad and I, along with the architects she works with, wanted to surprise our daughter Diana for her birthday, but now you've let all of Leland in on our secret. Diana turns 25 today and this is the new getaway home we are building for her in her favorite part of the country! Happy birthday, Diana! Hope you invite us often.
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David Cordes
8/23/2004
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Mom, what about me, your favorite son?? I didn't get a house when I turned 25, and I know that Sharon didn't either. I guess the youngest is always the spoiled one, ha ha. Diana, will it have enough garages for all your cars? Maybe an underground parking garage with elevators, like on an aircraft carrier.
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Pat G.
8/23/2004
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Even on a dreary Monday morning downstate, with such a sore spot for the focal point, TLR folks still come through with enough chuckles to bring on the sunshine :-) Thanks, everyone, especially Sally & Tom B.! To Cara Lee / Kazoo, if you go back through the last few days of TLR, you'll find some links explaining the new shoreline law, but the bottom line is you walk the water's edge.
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blondie
8/23/2004
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It looks like a gigantic guillotine.
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waterfront owner
8/23/2004
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Cara Lee of Kazoo, check the Leland Report of 8-21-2004, I posted the DEQ phone number, the information is there.
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gl
8/23/2004
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Looks to me like it could be the support structure for hanging a David Chaluly (sp?) glass sculpture. They are so big and heavy, they have to be hung as they can't support themselves. THey are very big and heavy, but look great behind a large window. Check out the one in Beaver Creek if you are ever in that spot.
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gl
8/23/2004
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I read the court's opinion on the shoreline case. Does the Circuit Court opinion hold in all Michigan jurisdictions? The conclusion specifically mentioned Lake Huron but did not mention the inclusion of other lakes or shorelines. Anyone know if the case is being taken to the next level--that being the Michigan Supreme COurt? Since the Great lakes are national/international in scope, I wonder if Federal shoreline statutes would supercede State statute? In a sense, the Lakes are no different from the oceans. Navigation from anywhere to anywhere is possible. High and low water marks do matter under Federal law.
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Susan
8/23/2004
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I think I am going to puke...........
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maximus
8/23/2004
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RE: Shoreline Opinion. This is a Court of Appeals not a Circuit Court ruling, ergo its impact is statewide. Michigan appellate rules require, as is the case in most jurusdictions, that the Supreme Court give leave to appeal. Property ownership rights are usually are considered in rem as far as jurisdiction. There are very few occasions, e.g., equal protection, where federal law and courts will trump state law regarding property ownership.
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Tom Gallery
8/23/2004
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This disaster is not far from my home.
About 1/4 mile behind it is a density development that is hawking seven five acre view sites for $350,000 each. If they build homes there, you'll see a row of seven McMansions about 150-200 feet apart perched on a hillside over M-22. Two eyesores within a 1/4 mile drive is in our future. These homeowners are in for a big surprise when they hear the road noise from M-22.
When architect Larry Graves sited our home 25 years ago, he placed it carefully between two large maple trees. We can see the lake but you could drive all over the county and not see the house.
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Raoule Sneaky Legbone
8/23/2004
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Don't you people recognize a missile silo when you see one. Part of the new Homeland Security Program developed by the Bush Administration in case of a terrorist attack on Leelanau County (which is inevitable, I might add!) No fool would build a HOUSE like that, would he?
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Diane
8/23/2004
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This looks just awful. Alot of bucks, but no taste. It looks like a design that has absolutely nothing to do with its surroundings or compliment it in any way.
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Dan
8/23/2004
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Well, it's been a strange and humbling experience to read all of the brutal comments about our house and, either directly or by implication, us. I hope none of you have to experience what it feels like to have someone take an unsolicited photograph of your home or something else you cherish and post it on a web site or other public forum in a fashion designed to invite ridicule.
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Wayne S. Kahrs
8/23/2004
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Mr. Editor: For some reason I no longer get the Leland Report, and I miss it. I re-subscribed and it told me I was already a subscriber. What gives??????
Thank you!
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Jeannie the Cake Lady
8/23/2004
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Sorry Dan, but when you build a home in plain view on public display on a bluff on a well traveled Michigan highway you are inviting public opinion whether you like it or not. If you love the design then our comments don't matter. If you were trying to impress us... well? "To each his own" said the old woman as she kissed the cow. Let's just say that your new home has made quite an impression and leave it at that.
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CTelgard
8/23/2004
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Well, Dan...you might as well start developing the thick skin required to own whatever it is you are building on that hillside along M-22. I'll have to admit I let out an amazed "Jeez Louise" the first time I laid eyes on your project as I navigated north of the Happy Hour. You have to admit it's a teensy bit Outstanding in It's Field at this point, and that's bound to attract plenty of attention and, though fairly good natured, some derision. Get used to it, let it roll off your back, and get on with things. I'm sure it will look more appealing when finished (please!). Be a good Leelanau citizen, get involved with local people and local issues and events, contribute to the community and be a nice person, and in a little while we'll all laugh about this... most of us, anyway.
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CTelgard
8/23/2004
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..and I think the new revolving Fischers Happy Hour Tavern on the 9th floor will be a bit hit...;)
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msm
8/24/2004
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Dan, where is home downstate? Just curious.
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The Mar
8/24/2004
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You know what, Dan? If you don't like to be ridiculed, don't do things that are ridiculous. This house is a Humvee in a compact parking space...
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msm
8/24/2004
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I don't think we are going to hear from Dan. Think he logged off.
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Cara Lee in Kazoo
8/25/2004
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Thanks to those folks who pointed out the shoreline information posted on previous days. I was lucky enough to be in Leelanau, without a computer or much of any technology, and had 2 weeks worth of Reports to catch up on when I got home. I looked at pictures and only skimmed the comments. I guess we hike to the state park beach, or invest in sturdy water shoes now. We'll need life vests for stretches of beach like that at Peterson Park. This has probably been asked before, too, but how do you get to Happy Hour Beach? Is it really just a right-of-way? Or is it like Shangri la, too good to be true?
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Oldgoat
8/25/2004
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C Telgards advice is sound. Your community involement might someday prevent someone else from building a similar dwelling next door. -Og
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Tom Gallery
9/7/2004
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Well, it's now grown eyes! As of today (Sept 7) the openings you see in the photo have extended outward several feet so it appears there are nine bug eyes peering over the landscape from three directions. The west facing window is full width of the structure and about 15 feet high.
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sallylu
9/16/2004
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I LOVE YOUR NEW HOME..in fact i'm jealous that i didn't have your architect....hope you know you are in white, right, geezerville now and even the younger folks don't or can't appreciate innovation, creativity, contemporary anything....if it aint been around forever, then it's apparently not acceptable....i have loved watching your house go up, and was really excited to see the I-beam cantilevers appear....i have a small amt of corrugated/galvanized trim on my exterior, and a quasi-industrial interior to which the bldg inspector also remarked: 'hmmmmm, this is different'......people also used to say that upon entering my shop.....as if 'different' were not ok.......i think it simply threatens their safe, boring, conservative middle of the road mentality......... i can turn you on to a really great local metal fabricator if you need metal stairs/bridges/railings built.......hang in there.....you've got a fan here, and i've got a lot of open minded compadres......
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Don B
9/19/2004
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You must be Dan from Steelcase. Welcome to Leelanau.
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WillyC
9/21/2004
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I've got news for all you complainers: We live in a free country. We can build whatever we want, wherever we want, whenever we want. If 'Dan' and his family want to build what could potentially be a unique and interesting postmodern structure, who the h--- are you people to level such vicious attacks at them? Talk about a fine "Welcome to the neighborhood"?! The essential message being telegraphed by all you kooks is that anyone who dares to spend THEIR money to purchase and build on property in Leelanau County needs to consult the local architectural collective of snobs stuck in the 19th Century to determine the best, most suitable structure for the public need. GET OVER YOURSELVES! The very argument of choosing "us" vs. "me" is the pinnacle of selfishness. What's next, a "Conformity Commitee" that travels the county and pickets anyone that dares erect the inappropriate piece of garden art in their yard? "Hey ho, Hey ho, this whirlygig has got to go?!"
If you really want to do something instead of just yapping about it, do the following, or otherwise just shut up:
1) Get out your checkbook and write a check to buy up all the property you don't want developed
2) Create a historic district that encompasses all of Leelanau County in which all architecture must subscribe to certain narrow parameters, such as only being cute 19th C. Farmhouse styles.
3) If you REALLY want to do something for the public good, advocate great downtown design in say, Suttons Bay, which is starting to look like any sprawl town in America on its periphery.
Best wishes to Dan and his family, and hoping they end up with a truly great house!
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deborah
9/21/2004
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Dan: by the tone of your comments you have comported yourself far more admirably with your comment than those who criticize your home. They
should be so fortunate as to meet you and call you neighbor. Regarding architectural evaluations, as with many topics, great minds converse about ideas, small minds about other people. The proof is here.
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John Frank
9/21/2004
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Sorry, WillyC, "property rights" are not absolute. We all are connected; what I do with my property can affect your ability to enjoy your property (including it's $$$value); for this reason civilized property owners and communities have developed zoning regulations and, in some cases of particular historic significance or aesthetic value, further controls on appearance. These regulations, far from trampling on anyone's God-given "property rights," actually protect property rights for everybody.
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WillyC
9/22/2004
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No, I'm sorry. The contention that "we are all connected" is a fallacious argument, particularly because we're not speaking of Disney's 'Celebration', rather, Leelanau County. If I want to build a house with purple stucco, galvinized steel and a bowed roof, it's really none of your business as long as all applicable building and zoning laws are complied with.The last I had checked, there are no mechanisms in place for aesthetic control in Leelanau, which really is the last bastion of property rights. Clearly, zoning/planning regulations are important, and aesthetic controls can be a valuable asset to a community, if that is what you're looking for. But I am not, nor (I suspect) are 'Dan' and his family. They obviously wouldn't have chosen to build that home in the Franklin, Michigan historic district, nor would that been allowed, and there is nothing wrong with that, either. But the hateful comments that I have seen here demonstrate a leap of logic that I am not prepared to make-that individual property owners in Leelanau need to conform to some undefined community standard of collective aesthetic conformity. Far from "protecting" property rights, the assertion in your argument only illustrates that property rights are LIMITED by such measures. Again-great if you're looking for that sort of thing. Intelligent people are always going to disagree about politics, culture, and yes, real estate, but I personally prefer to live in a community where we can rationally debate those disagreements instead of capitulating to conformity.
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Dan R
9/26/2004
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Where I live, and across most of our fine state, we are plagued by cookie-cutter homes that use excessive resources and have no more aesthetic value than the ticky-tacky homes of Levit Town. This house represents a relatively modest but bold solution to the typical “McMansions” and one that is far more interesting and actually harmonizes with its surroundings (when complete, not in its half finished state). And perhaps it doesn’t fit with the farm houses in the area but it certainly reflects many of the buildings and structures related to fruit processing; which have their own charm. Beyond that this house is being built in a very environmentally conscious way- opposite of the McMansions (thanks for the term Tom Gallery, I’m a big fan). If you’re worried about what comes next check out the architect’s web site:
Anderson
I think the finished product will be great and in a year our two most people will be indifferent or showing it off to friends and relatives. The old houses, cabins, barns, and fisheries of Leelanau are all excellent architecture, as is this home. The old and new fit together in an eclectic way because they are both well designed. Regurgitated kitsch reproductions of old styles mock what was built before and deface the landscape far more than this piece of modern architecture.
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Far'less
1/29/2006
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Before the M-22 Chameleon house was built, there was a travel trailer parked up on the hill on that site, for a summer at least. A long narrow boxlike travel trailer. That didn't look right at the time either. Also, it reminded me of a trailer up the road from Glen Lake. There was maybe a trailer there that was replaced/or graced by a structure that looked like you took the original structure and uprighted it. Uprightness.
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keenan
10/3/2006
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This is a two part post due to the 2000word limit
Problem:
Professor Eisberg seems to have little knowledge of how to use the structural integrity of a material to its fullest potential. -Often the demise of non-design related intelligence, however the topic is architecture, not static/dynamic principle.
Answer:
Le Corbusier (October 6, 1887– August 27, 1965), was a Swiss architect, famous for his contributions to what is now called modernism. His career spanned five decades, with iconic buildings constructed across central Europe, India, Russia, and one structure each in North and South America. One of Corbu's five points of architecture is to utilize a steel frame, therefore interior non-supporting wall could be designed as the architect wished, and an open floor plan, meaning that the floor space was free to be configured into rooms without concern for supporting walls. This also allows for a free-facade where banded windows are able to span from wall-to-wall.
continue.
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keenan
10/3/2006
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My Opinion:
An attempt to introduce any modern principle upon the fierce conservatives of Leelanau County could be as hopeless as introducing academics to our county 'sports' schools. It is sad to see such unintelligent comments made about groundbreaking buildings in our area. You have my pity as for your 'Wal-Mart' remark makes me think that you see no comparison in the bloodsucking, repetitious, no-brain design/planning --that our county continually spills out in forms of disastrous clowndominium developments and catalog homes-- and our own strip mall Wal-Mart storefronts. Glen Arbor, Leland, Suttons Bay, and on are all continually subject to bad design due to lack of spatial understanding and the contagious repeats o f the neighbor's new vinyl-sided catastrophe. An architectural apocalypse nears our fertilized lawns as the traditional Seaside Fl. atmosphere seeps into our drinking water and into the narrow minded public.
To the author:
Please read-up on a topic before presenting it to the public in a degrading fashion (wouldn’t want to second the Leelanau surprise) - or hire an intern. If it's embarrassing looking back at my home at 22, i can only imagine the devastated grounds of Leelanau County at age 40.
Postscript.
interesting to hear the various comments
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